Which Performance Badges Are a Scam?

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  • Published on: 13 January 2020
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    BMW has M. Nissan has Nismo. Ford has ST. If you see one of these badges, you know the car is serious...Or is it? Maybe some of these badges are...lying? Join Nolan as he explores the history of all of you favorite badges: BMW M, Nissan Nismo, Ford ST, Mercedes-Benz, AMG, Audi S, Hyundai N, Acura and HondaType R- and whether or not they mean anything anymore. This is a spicy one!

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COMMENTS: 40

  • Daveunruh
    Daveunruh   4 hours ago

    That integra type R looked like it was involved in a hail storm, sideways.

  • Mark Laurent
    Mark Laurent   7 hours ago

    There are still plenty to be covered, vw r, Subaru sti, dodge hemi/srt

  • MultiGameKing101
    MultiGameKing101   12 hours ago

    We can all agree the best performance badges will always beChevy = SSDodge = SRT

  • Verano Jelly
    Verano Jelly   13 hours ago

    With Audi, I don't think it's fair to put Audi's S line and Quattro Line on par with things like BMW M and Mercedes AMG. A better comparison would be the RS and R line's. As for Quattro, all of the vehicles that don the logo are just AWD, and aren't inherently performance-oriented vehicles.

  • Haiko
    Haiko   13 hours ago

    Yeah, because a 360hp or whatever S4/S5 is totally lame and slowWtf? S Audis have allways been around and they have allways been the fastest Audis with the "standard" chassis.What i said could be applied to other brands but idk about that THAT good

  • Ethan B
    Ethan B   13 hours ago

    So a badge adds 5 more hp than a sticker?

  • Loudmouth Lees
    Loudmouth Lees   14 hours ago

    Nothing from VW, the GTI is fine but what about the R Line?

  • justrokkit
    justrokkit   16 hours ago

    Much respect on the research you do for these episodes. I'm surprised you didn't review Polestar, considering the potential to add knowledge to your viewers.Also lots of respect for Nolan's care for pronunciation, but the Hyundai pronunciation could use work. Regardless, great episode!

  • Blake Ba
    Blake Ba   1 days ago

    Anyone else notice that be said “2009” when he was talking about the supra ?

  • bhuuthesecond
    bhuuthesecond   1 days ago

    What does it matter if the racing division of a car company helped develop it's road car? Can not mechanical engineers do mechanical engineering? Are the ones in the racing division using a different kind of science and physics that the ones in the road car department have never heard of?

  • Gothic
    Gothic   1 days ago

    No Infiniti G/Q "sport" models?

  • chris8989 j
    chris8989 j   1 days ago

    type r has type s same as ford rs and st

  • Travis Hairston
    Travis Hairston   1 days ago

    Wait. So... You're tying to tell me, that a 2000 M3, and a 2000 330i share the same powertrain?

  • Roland M
    Roland M   1 days ago

    You conveniently forgot that Honda/Acura does make a lesser version of "Type-R", called "Type-S" which is sometimes also little more than cosmetics. They all do it.

  • DJ Dizzy
    DJ Dizzy   1 days ago

    List of some performance divisions or teams:Chevy: Chevy/GM PerformanceDodge: Mopar, SRTFiat: AbarthFord: Ford Racing, SVO/SVT/STHonda: HPDJaguar: SVRMazda: MazdaspeedMercedes: AMGMitsubishi: RalliartNissan: NismoSubaru: STiToyota: TRD

  • MRCLDMN
    MRCLDMN   1 days ago

    How else do you want to call the optional sport package? Everyone knows that a car with for example a s-line badge is not comparable to s or rs models, same with the m models. I didn't know it was a bad thing to be able to buy a car with an economical engine, and add some sport seats or steering wheel.

  • Stinky
    Stinky   1 days ago

    "Hun-day like Sunday" at least that's what a friend of mine told me the sales rep said when he was buying his. It's a great car brand, especially for price vs. performance!

  • Bon M
    Bon M   1 days ago

    What a BS video the M Performance cars do get a significant power boost over the standard cars just some useless clickbait stopped watching after that

  • Megexy slovak
    Megexy slovak   1 days ago

    Meanwhile in Czechoslovakia the skoda has the "VRS" Performance badge while it has now nothing with motorsports

  • Patrik Hanc
    Patrik Hanc   1 days ago

    In Europe we already have N-line cars from Hyundai and N-line its just a package for ordinery hyundai i30, just look exactly same like more powerful performance i30 N model. Only has a stiffer and lower suspension, power is same as stock.

  • ryan webb
    ryan webb   2 days ago

    What about John Cooper Works badge? Anyone?

  • Christian Pankow
    Christian Pankow   2 days ago

    All of that and you couldn't include the Chevrolet Super Sport line? It's only been around since 1961 and has been on damn near everything for better or worse.

  • Salesman666
    Salesman666   2 days ago

    Euro has VW R line, and I see it a hell of a lot!

  • Völl Däpp
    Völl Däpp   2 days ago

    Not that I am a AUDI Fan (anymore)., but I am not so sure about Audi. The S-models are more powerful. A S6 is faster than a A6 (really fast is of course only the RS6). The current Audi A6 is available as diesel only and has 257 kW (349 PS) while the most powerful engine of the A6 is the 250 kW (340 PS) and the most powerful diesel A6 has 210 kW (286 PS). Also the S6 is the fastest in acceleration - well besides the RS6 of course.There is however a "S-Line" option, and that is basically only a trim-level with some "sporty" accessories and color schemes, much as e.g. Chryslers "SRT-Design". And yout fotos seem to show S-LINE trim-level only, not S-Variants of the car.While we are at it: The current Audi diesels are not good. After the diesel scandal the they needed to meet the emissions regulations for real, and they obviously have done so programming the diesel to avoid high load / high pressure - so the engines are operated at - for diesels - quite high revs. So still much horse on paper, but no "diesel-punch" from low RPM anymore. So the latest AUDI diesels drive like crap in my opinion.

  • Nicholas Persaud
    Nicholas Persaud   2 days ago

    To be fair the explorer st has a major performance boost from the other models since it's boasting 400hp to all wheels

  • cai hunter
    cai hunter   2 days ago

    Germans annoy me the most with this, BMW the most. See the m badge on a 318d just seems like a insult.